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He was tapped out after the food stamps thing.

So... there's a couple problems with your statements.
Why do you think race relations got worse?
I think this is a very real question which has to be properly answered, because a lot of people on the trump side of conservative blame obama for race relations being worse....
Oddly, this is the same group which started throwing a fit almost the instant obama was elected.

So there's a fun slight of hand there.... black man gets elected president... then a group starts claiming reverse racism about every thing he does.... that same group then points to their own howling complaints as evidence that race relations are worse.... as a coup-de-grace... that same group then organizes white nationalist parades for the new incoming president.

Anyway.... I don't honestly think race relations are truly worse.
I think there is a lot more visibility to the problems which existed, and that creates a perception that its worse.
An easy example would be the ubiquity of cell phones. Those now allow black people to post evidence whenever they feel like they are being mistreated by police. That ubiquity of cell phones essentially allowed the existence of a black lives matter movement. That's not because police started treating black people bad in the year 2010... it's because suddenly they could show people outside of their community what they saw. Relations between black people and cops didn't get worse. They just became visible.


I think a lot of what we see with race relations now has to do with visibility and communication. Previously, racist dudes had to put on hoods and masks and have secret meetings to not let people know they were the racist dude. Now they just give themselves an anonymous username on a cigar forum, or 4chan, or 8chan, or discord... They can organize, they can reinforce each other's beliefs. And on the other side, the very far left liberals can do the same thing... they come up with new things they consider micro-aggressions, and reinforce in their own mind how bad that is. Then, they post that sh#t to facebook, and everyone reads about how racist people are, and the racists then just claim they aren't racist but the PC crowd keeps moving the bar and makes it just darn impossible for them to not say anything nice about the darkies. We see people's racist thoughts because after they've tossed the dumb racist ideas back and forth with their fellow anonymous racists on cigarbid, or 8chan, the idea seems suddenly normal and ok to them. So they post their racist meme to facebook or twitter, and are suddenly surprised when half their friends tell them it's racist. They get defensive, and use any number of defensive techniques to claim they aren't racist, they have a black friend, or whatever... but we all see it. It's visible.

I dunno. Maybe that can be considered worse. Maybe the people who are marginal racists are becoming full-blown racists due to their constant reinforcing of racist ideas in these siloed internet forums. But even if that's the case, it isn't due to obama.

A quick sanity check could easily show that all this insane racist crap started popping up the instant Obama became president. Not before he proved himself one way or another.... so he didn't make race relations worse... if anything, the election of a black president drove some people so crazy they showed the world how racist they were.

Meh... I'm rambling now.

Yep and poor Trump is hated because he is white...

Soooo you're a racist as well???

That is just horrible! I mean hate is hate...pumpkins have feelings also

^^^^^^Word

You just described the Trump presidency and his detractors to a tee.
The anti-Trump rhetoric started instantly.
Hell, the snowflakes had to take a day off because of the election results!
Rallies were formed and people were marching before he took his oath.

You have repeatedly professed that the anti Obama feelings were rooted in racism.
What do you attribute the anti-Trump reaction?

And don't be so bold as to suggest it's thoughtful recognition or intelligent foresight.
It wasn't.
It's simple partisan politics.

At least I'm honest about that.
Too many anti-Trumpers don't have that capacity.

OMG, Donald Trump is moving to ban bump stocks.

Never mind that this appears to be a safe move because there is no big money behind bump stock manufacturing. I can’t believe the NRA is letting him do it!

That Obama was a liberal, and a really ambitious/aggressive one to boot was, of course, a legitimate reason for conservatives to fear and hate him and his politics. That's partisanship and faIr.
But it's clear that many openly and closeted racists hated him because of his color. Not sure how you can defend against that reality...

I also was hopeful and proud when he was elected. Still am actually. And not because of his politics, but because of what it said about us.

OMG, I realized the obvious – This is only Trumps FIRST STEP to taking ALL our WEAPONS.
Even the ones that don’t work.

Soon they will be kicking down our doors to search for guns, rifles, knives,,,,
We will all be left with only plastic sporks……

Phil, Are you suggesting that we have some communist healthcare system - like Obamacare?
Any red blooded Republican will tell you that if people need mental healthcare, then they need to get a job and pay for it. Especially the children.

i don't consider Trump a Republican even though he used the party as his avenue to the presidency. I would have voted for all Republicans other than Trump or Cruz.

Sure. Plenty of people disliked obama because he was going to screw with the healthcare system in place currently, or do other liberal things. That's not what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about the muslim references, the monkey photos/drawings, the "kenyan king" references, the birther crap, and a huge number of other things which popped up which had absolutely nothing to do with his politics, had nothing to do with a single outrageous thing he did or said prior to the election, yet immediately became a reason to attack him.

That crap had nothing to do with politics or him as a person. It was purely based on his race, his name, the fact he was "different" to people.



Yeah, you're mixing too much crap in there to parse out.

Thank God!!! Sheesh I mean you type very well but by the 5th paragraph I'm like just shut tha f$%k up already!!!

I would have to read the entire post your boyfriend posts!! Ain't nobody got time for that!!

well that was substantive. I know it has me thinking.

victor = bandy

That's a load of crap.
You keep talking about monkey photos, but truth be told if not for YOU I'd never even know about them. (well, maybe some others from this board. but no where else. ever.)
Like I told Huck, OF COURSE the racists hated him for his skin color.

You seem incapable of separating that from your thought process.
Sorry to confuse you.

nooooo....Blue Lives Matter!!!

You're kidding, right?
One of the first times I got banned here was because of a photo posted to pic post of obama as a monkey or something like that. I don't even remember who posted it.... but this was right around his election or inauguration.

Back then there were posters using the n-word (I believe someone with goat in their username?)... there was a lot of really racist sh#t on this site.

Maybe you didn't see it.
Maybe you forgot about it, because it didn't impact you...
Hell... maybe you just have rose colored glasses. But it was prevalent.

but....orange is a race......................... right?

And orange is the new black

Yes Maam!! Learned a long time ago, my opinion is not gonna change...just like the other guys opinion isn't. Why waste time. You can use that if you want Princess. I won't mind

I would believe you....if I hadn't seen most of your posts....soooo wipe your vag, pull up your big girl panties and get back to it.