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Mr. Jones Offline
#651 Posted:
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DEMOCRATIC Sen. Booker and Sen. Maize Hirono are TWO OF THE BIGGEST DOUCHE BAGS I HAVE EVER WITNESSED
IN A CONGRESSIONAL HEARING...

KAVANAUGHS IS GETTING RUN OUT ON A RAIL
"IN A QUASI ILLEGAL PUBLIC TRIAL" WHICH HOLDS NO
LEGAL BEARING ON ANYTHING...

THIS ADNAUSEUM DISPLAY OF TOTAL BULLCRAP WILL
BE STUDIED FOR DECADES IN EVERY LAW SCHOOL IN THE NATION...
rfenst Offline
#652 Posted:
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Mr. Jones wrote:
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BE STUDIED FOR DECADES IN EVERY LAW SCHOOL IN THE NATION...

No it won't. It is neither a case nor statute.
bgz Offline
#653 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
Kav's toast due to his demeanor in this hearing.


Please elaborate. I didn't see anything that caused me to think "this guy is toast", curious to what it was that you saw that makes you think that.
Abrignac Offline
#654 Posted:
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I think the fact that he hasn’t punched her in the mouth is a testement to his demeanor.

Her version of the facts have changed what 3-4 times. That in itself speaks volumes of one’s credibly.
delta1 Offline
#655 Posted:
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Kavanaugh's opening was powerful and compelling...he and Ford both appear credible...doubt if any new "facts" or "truths"
will result from this process...

I agree with rfenst that Kavanaugh's demeanor when answering questions posed by dems was not a good look for someone who aspires to the highest court in our land. He was belligerently evasive, non-responsive, argumentative to the point of contempt and generally dismissive of the process. He did not display judicial temperament. That won't matter to the party in power or to their base...but maybe independents were turned off...

It was a turning point when Graham insisted on using his own five minutes, effectively shutting down the GOP's hired gun. After Graham, Mitchell was not allowed to ask any further questions of Kavanaugh. Why? because she was behaving like a prosecutor, asking Kavanaugh questions about the incident like a prosecutor would, and the GOP did not want that to continue...

wonder if cons who usually belittle libs for crying under stress will hold that against Kavanaugh...I doubt it, since it doesn't seem as though anyone will change their minds...he'll likely be confirmed with the slimmest of margins, prolly with Pence's vote, along party lines...
tailgater Offline
#656 Posted:
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BREAKING NEWS!

Two people in their 50's can't remember details from a drinking party back in high school.

No, that's not the news.

The "news" is that some people thought there would be a revelation. Something concrete and verifiable.

It's an unusual day when Lindsey Graham is the voice of reason.




Mr. Jones Offline
#657 Posted:
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^^^ you may be right delta ^^^

I wrote my "toast" post only seeing Ford's testimony.
I had not seen any of KAVANAUGHS except at the very end
And that was by all democrats where he was evasive.

After seeing his midday testimony...I started to think differently THAN MY "TOAST POST"...I think he "might" get in by one vote....

And that WILL BE PENCE...

IF THE REPUBLICANS DELAY THIS VOTE IT WILL NEVER PASS...

The republicans are all breathing a SIGH of relief that
Arizona SEN. McCain is not around anymore...HIS THUMBS DOWN WOULD KIBOSH THIS SCOTUS ENTIRE VOTE...like his thumbs down on healthcare ( which I whole heartedly agreed with him because republican health plans were WAY WORSE, COVERED WAY LESS AND COSTED WAY MORE).
bgz Offline
#658 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:

I agree with rfenst that Kavanaugh's demeanor when answering questions posed by dems was not a good look for someone who aspires to the highest court in our land. He was belligerently evasive, non-responsive, argumentative to the point of contempt and generally dismissive of the process. He did not display judicial temperament. That won't matter to the party in power or to their base...but maybe independents were turned off...


Are you saying you wouldn't be agitated by their incessant insistence that he himself should call for an FBI investigation despite the fact that he himself has not the authority nor the obligation to do so?

I thought the leftists were out of line before they got called out on their bs tactic, and when they continued to do so afterwards showed their true agenda... and it also showed they didn't have a backup plan.


bgz Offline
#659 Posted:
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Mr. Jones wrote:
^^^ you may be right delta ^^^

I wrote my "toast" post only seeing Ford's testimony.
I had not seen any of KAVANAUGHS except at the very end
And that was by all democrats where he was evasive.


I watched the whole thing, he did try to put his point across on the first one... and on the second, after that it just became tedious. The leftists clearly had a plan of attack, and their plan was to try to get him to ask for an FBI investigation and to use it against him if he did not. As I stated, he does not have the authority to do so, nor should he be obliged to do so.

If you think otherwise, then their strategy worked on you.
delta1 Offline
#660 Posted:
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both sides were politicking...that's why Graham called an audible and shut down the GOP's female prosecutor...she was the only possible chance for some "revelation," he recognized the danger and launched his tirade, which totally changed the proceedings...kudos to him for saving Kavanaugh's nomination...
bgz Offline
#661 Posted:
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I disagree, I think he intervened because someone had to call BS on that dirty tactic. The leftists clearly had a plan of attack and they all conformed to it. In my eyes, it was so painfully obvious that they didn't GAF about finding answers, they didn't GAF about Ford, the only thing they cared about is trying to stall the vote.
delta1 Offline
#662 Posted:
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bgz wrote:
Are you saying you wouldn't be agitated by their incessant insistence that he himself should call for an FBI investigation despite the fact that he himself has not the authority nor the obligation to do so?

I thought the leftists were out of line before they got called out on their bs tactic, and when they continued to do so afterwards showed their true agenda... and it also showed they didn't have a backup plan.





he didn't look like a SC justice...it wasn't just his response to the FBI question...he reacted aggrieved to questions about the yearbook, about drinking, about non-complimentary statements by other acquaintances, Renate, ski...

delta1 Offline
#663 Posted:
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bgz wrote:
I disagree, I think he intervened because someone had to call BS on that dirty tactic. The leftists clearly had a plan of attack and they all conformed to it. In my eyes, it was so painfully obvious that they didn't GAF about finding answers, they didn't GAF about Ford, the only thing they cared about is trying to stall the vote.


Then why didn't they let the prosecutor continue to ask questions on behalf of the GOP members, as originally planned...finding answers?
cacman Offline
#664 Posted:
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"Thank you very much for your testimony and trying to answer our questions as best as you can remember" (from over 35yrs ago). Wants an FBI investigation into an event that may have happened with the accuser, and is well past the statute of limitations. LMAO!

What a load of nauseating bullsh*t!

Wag The Dog!
bgz Offline
#665 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
Then why didn't they let the prosecutor continue to ask questions on behalf of the GOP members, as originally planned...finding answers?


I'm having a hard time with this conversation....

Your asking me why they didn't let the prosecutor keep asking questions when my response was to why I felt like they intervened.

It's getting a bit redundant at this point...
delta1 Offline
#666 Posted:
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She was there at the behest of the GOP Chairman and his members...

she asked questions of Kavanaugh on behalf of two GOP members of the committee, not for any Dem members...

it wasn't a Dem idea for her to be there...

the GOP wanted her because they didn't want to question Ford themselves because they were afraid of how 11 old white guys going down on Ford on national TV would look, and for the process to seem "fair" their original plan was to let her handle all the questioning of both witnesses on behalf of the GOP members...

then she acted like the prosecutor she is and asked Kavanaugh tough questions about the alleged incident...he responded respectfully to her questions, answering them and saying "ma'am" several times, but his demeanor was noticeably different with the dems...


that's why I think an impartial non-partisan investigation (FBI?) of the allegations is necessary...
tailgater Offline
#667 Posted:
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Everyone knew there would be nothing new. Nothing to prove or disprove the claims.

The only reason to continue this course of action, therefore, is to create divisiveness.

Mission accomplished.

This is a huge win for the democrats as we approach midterms.

Kavanaugh gets approved, but Ford becomes the "every woman" for their cause.

bgz Offline
#668 Posted:
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I don't know what you think could be gained from an FBI investigation. Everyone already got interviewed and already provided statements with the penalty of perjury if they were found to be lying.

What else could they possibly do?

The only thing an FBI investigation would do is delay the confirmation. Before the hearing, I was thinking that an FBI investigation sounded rational, but after watching the hearing, I no longer believe that to be true.
deadeyedick Offline
#669 Posted:
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Two credible people. She said, he said. Nothing proved either way.
frankj1 Offline
#670 Posted:
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deadeyedick wrote:
Two credible people. She said, he said. Nothing proved either way.

probably wasn't designed for proof anyway, but I believe he gets in...unless a couple GOP were actually swayed.
Abrignac Offline
#671 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
She was there at the behest of the GOP Chairman and his members...

she asked questions of Kavanaugh on behalf of two GOP members of the committee, not for any Dem members...

it wasn't a Dem idea for her to be there...

the GOP wanted her because they didn't want to question Ford themselves because they were afraid of how 11 old white guys going down on Ford on national TV would look, and for the process to seem "fair" their original plan was to let her handle all the questioning of both witnesses on behalf of the GOP members...

then she acted like the prosecutor she is and asked Kavanaugh tough questions about the alleged incident...he responded respectfully to her questions, answering them and saying "ma'am" several times, but his demeanor was noticeably different with the dems...


that's why I think an impartial non-partisan investigation (FBI?) of the allegations is necessary...


If the Democrats wanted an investigation they would have called for long ago. Not on the eve of a vote. This is nothing but a polotical a hit job.

Cavanaugh has already been the subject of 6 prior investigations. At least was done for him to have access to the nuclear codes years ago. The FBI certainly did through investigations then. If nothing was found then, do we really thing the 7th time will be the charm?

We should all be disgusted by the way Senate Democrats have handled this just to keep a seat open.

One thing is for sure. The Dems have taken a big gamble. This could backfire so bad that the Republicans may pick up more than a handful of Democratic seats if the voters in moderate districts vote against them in the mid terms.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#672 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
he didn't look like a SC justice...it wasn't just his response to the FBI question...he reacted aggrieved to questions about the yearbook, about drinking, about non-complimentary statements by other acquaintances, Renate, ski...


If you were falsely accused of trying to rape someone 35 years ago, what would you "look like" after facing endless, repetitive questions which carried the presumption of your guilt?

I'm not a detective, but if I was interrogating someone for a crime and they smiled through 8 hours of aggressive questioning and never once got upset over being wrongfully accused, I'd be pretty sure that guy was guilty, and also probably a psychopath...
Speyside Offline
#673 Posted:
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Anthony, I think this is all about mid terms and very little about sexual assault. This is being tried in the court of public opinion. In my opinion nothing has occurred that will change the minds of hard core republicans and hard core democrats. Little has occurred to change the mind of conservative republicans and conservative democrats. What is in play is the independent voters. The republicans and the democrats are both risking all. The entire dog and pony show is disgusting. Let's be honest here, Kavanaugh will get voted in. Republicans will vote for him and democrats will vote against him. There is a small possibility that a democrat in a red state could vote for him. There is a small possibility that Collins, Murkowski, or Flake could vote against him.
ZRX1200 Offline
#674 Posted:
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I thought he got a little too terse, but totally got why Trump picked him hearing this today. Feinstein is a goddamn embarrassment to humanity, that c u next Tuesday is not gonna get a pass from St Pete.

The FBI INVESTIGATES FEDERAL CRIMES. They’ve done 6 background checks. I love how Benghazi was a waste of money when goddamn AMERICANS DOING THEIR JOBS were left to die by elected POS yet the FBI doing a 7th check to delay the nominee vote is common sense.

Trump isn’t POTUS material? I think this has shown what a vast majority of the lefts moral fiber is made of.

Sincerely,
Someone who holds their nose to occasionally vote R
DrafterX Offline
#675 Posted:
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11old white guys..?? Why is race being brought up..??

Never mind.. not really looking for an answer.. it's obvious.. Mellow
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#676 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Honestly... what do you think they'll get away with on that?

So the mid-terms happen. Maybe after the mid-terms they have a dem majority in the senate. So?

Trump is still president. It isn't like he's going to suddenly start nominating left leaning justices. They'll have to eventually confirm someone.


The dems want women on the fence to be concerned about these accusations and hope they vote blue because of it. They want to make republicans look like they are insensitive to women. That't the point of delaying the vote until after the midterms. If they really wanted to take down Kavanaugh with this they would have started the assault at least 4 weeks earlier than they did.
DrafterX Offline
#677 Posted:
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They're also trying to turn the black community against him.. Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#678 Posted:
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I heard a clip of at least 8 different reporters using the '11 old white guys' today... Mellow
Abrignac Offline
#679 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
Anthony, I think this is all about mid terms and very little about sexual assault. This is being tried in the court of public opinion. In my opinion nothing has occurred that will change the minds of hard core republicans and hard core democrats. Little has occurred to change the mind of conservative republicans and conservative democrats. What is in play is the independent voters. The republicans and the democrats are both risking all. The entire dog and pony show is disgusting. Let's be honest here, Kavanaugh will get voted in. Republicans will vote for him and democrats will vote against him. There is a small possibility that a democrat in a red state could vote for him. There is a small possibility that Collins, Murkowski, or Flake could vote against him.


I do agree that it won’t change the minds of base voters. But, that’s irrelevant as they aren’t the ones who determine the winners and losers. The fight is for the swing vote.

The Dems and their proxies have made screwed up royally. Their “star” witness gave the names of four people who would corroborate her story, but the didn’t. They actually compromised her case. Her grasp of the facts are cloudy at best.

I stand by my earlier statement. I think the Republicans will pick up seats in the midterms.
jjanecka Offline
#680 Posted:
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^^^THIS^^^
Mr. Jones Offline
#681 Posted:
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Why am I up?
ZRX1200 Offline
#682 Posted:
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Small burst radio microwaves
bgz Offline
#683 Posted:
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Is that the same stuff that's turning the penguins gay?
ZRX1200 Offline
#684 Posted:
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No, just the swans
bgz Offline
#685 Posted:
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Damn it, I want to know what's turning the penguins gay!!! Mad
jjanecka Offline
#686 Posted:
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Pretty sure it was McCarrick =(
DrafterX Offline
#687 Posted:
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Hollywood and Global warming.. Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#688 Posted:
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"Our system of justice affords a presumption of innocence to the accused, absent corroborating evidence,"

Flake will confirm... Mellow
ZRX1200 Offline
#689 Posted:
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Chem trails dude
bgz Offline
#690 Posted:
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I thought that was what was making the frogs gay:/
Abrignac Offline
#691 Posted:
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The recent silence on this thread by those on the left is deafening.

The facts couldn’t be clearer that this allegation is a hit job. Where’s the outrage?
DrafterX Offline
#692 Posted:
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I tried to tell them... Mellow
delta1 Offline
#693 Posted:
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Mr. Kavanaugh was mistaken...he thought he was auditioning for a Bar Fight, not for the country's Highest Bar...


My comment about the 11 old white guys was a reference back to my opinion that this was shaping up to be Thomas v Hill II, and that was the descriptive takeaway by media analysts immediately following the "Anita Hill/Clarence Thomas" hearings, and was a theory about why the GOP majority on the Judiciary Committee chose to relinquish their opportunity to query Ford. Instead they wanted a female prosecutor to do that so they could avoid the appearance of "11 old white guys ganging up on a female witness."
delta1 Offline
#694 Posted:
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Kavanaugh's decorum and manner during his testimony was appropriate if he was an accused suspect making his case on the steps of the courthouse to a gaggle of reporters.

It was not, by a long way, the sort of behavior that one would expect from a sober judge, in any court of law, let alone the highest court in the land. To my eye, his temperament, his credibility, his impartiality and his judgement under pressure was exposed as not meeting the standards we expect from justices on SCOTUS.
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DrafterX Offline
#696 Posted:
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That's all we have left..?? He got mad about accused of rape..?? Find me a sitting judge anywhere who wouldn't get pissed off.. Mellow
victor809 Offline
#697 Posted:
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Abrignac wrote:
The recent silence on this thread by those on the left is deafening.

The facts couldn’t be clearer that this allegation is a hit job. Where’s the outrage?


dammit. I wrote two responses already and both got f-ed with my internet.

I'm happy about this. He'll get confirmed and it will be hilarious.
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#698 Posted:
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I doubt you get the show you hope for Victor... The worst is out and - even if believable - isn't that bad... Once confirmed, you'll likely rarely hear his name again... No reason for liberal media to report on something they can't politically influence...
Phil222 Offline
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I used up all my outrage when Garland didn't get his vote...none left for the Kavanator.
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I am trying to start an internet rumor that kavs first act as judge will be to legalize rape... Hoping to make it on to snopes...
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