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teedubbya Offline
#601 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 9:58 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Then why did you slander all over CROS..?? Not talking


because he is muslim
opelmanta1900 Offline
#602 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 9:58 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I do get the politicians.... not normal folks like us

cuz 'murica... pick a side and fight like hell...
teedubbya Offline
#603 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 10:02 AM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
cuz 'murica... pick a side and fight like hell...



That I recognize and agree with that. Play the game while trying to act objective and claim you are not playing the game.
bgz Offline
#604 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 10:06 AM EST
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Ya, don't hate the player, hate the game.
teedubbya Offline
#605 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 10:10 AM EST
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bgz wrote:
Ya, don't hate the player, hate the game.



To be honest I feel very much that way. Stop playing the game. If you don't stop how can we expect them ever to?
DrafterX Offline
#606 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 10:16 AM EST
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Well, they started it... Not talking
rfenst Offline
#607 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 10:17 AM EST
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The prosecutor's right hand, with the pen, is very irritating.
DrafterX Offline
#608 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 10:28 AM EST
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You want I should smack him around a little bit..?? Huh
victor809 Offline
#609 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 10:28 AM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Pretty sure you're not retarded, so I'm pretty sure you definitely get it...

Dems will bring up person after person after person to say something bad about kav and any other conservative white nominee put forward and demand investigation after investigation... The only - only - reason this is being done is the long term goal of preventing trump from seating another conservative justice on the supreme court...

Cons won't risk that happening, so they'll push kav through...

To pretend like any politician on either side of the aisle is doing anything out of a sense of moral duty is retarded... We all know why this is happening... Stop with the act...


This makes no sense. Trump nominated gorsuch. He got confirmed. He did not get accused of sexual assault by anyone.

You're claiming this will happen again and again when this is the first time it's happened, and it didn't happen a year ago.
DrafterX Offline
#610 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 10:33 AM EST
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Prolly has a lot to do with the mid-terms...Mellow
victor809 Offline
#611 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 10:48 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Prolly has a lot to do with the mid-terms...Mellow


Honestly... what do you think they'll get away with on that?

So the mid-terms happen. Maybe after the mid-terms they have a dem majority in the senate. So?

Trump is still president. It isn't like he's going to suddenly start nominating left leaning justices. They'll have to eventually confirm someone.
DrafterX Offline
#612 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 11:23 AM EST
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True.. but they're Resisting.. that's just what they do and stuff.. Mellow
bgz Offline
#613 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 11:23 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
To be honest I feel very much that way. Stop playing the game. If you don't stop how can we expect them ever to?


But games are fun though, what else am I going to do when I need a quick mind clear.
teedubbya Offline
#614 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 11:24 AM EST
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maybe huff some glue?
DrafterX Offline
#615 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 11:24 AM EST
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TW whacks off... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#616 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 11:26 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
True.. but they're Resisting.. that's just what they do and stuff.. Mellow


That's ridiculous. That makes no more sense than someone just accusing republicans of only nominating rapists, cuz that's just what they do and stuff....

If you are going to say they are doing this for reason x.... then it would only make sense to have a rationale as to why reason x would help them.
victor809 Offline
#617 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 11:27 AM EST
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bgz wrote:
Butt games are fun though, what else am I going to do when I need a quick mind clear.



Scared Scared Scared Scared Scared
rfenst Offline
#618 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 11:28 AM EST
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This Hearing has become laboriously painful to watch.
victor809 Offline
#619 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 11:30 AM EST
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I'm getting pretty bored of it myself.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#620 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 11:34 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
That's ridiculous. That makes no more sense than someone just accusing republicans of only nominating rapists, cuz that's just what they do and stuff....

If you are going to say they are doing this for reason x.... then it would only make sense to have a rationale as to why reason x would help them.

I'm not sure how it all works, but don't you think dems hope to stop the nomination of any supreme court nominee until trump is gone?
dstieger Offline
#621 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 11:36 AM EST
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The prosecutor isn't bad, but seems to betray a little more R bias than I expected....maybe I'm just projecting what I expect to hear on MSM later...lol

I'd much rather listen to Ford and the prosecutor than the fn Senators.....not a one of them has added ANY value and its rather nauseating every time one of them opens their mouth...'on all sides'...:)
victor809 Offline
#622 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 11:44 AM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
I'm not sure how it all works, but don't you think dems hope to stop the nomination of any supreme court nominee until trump is gone?


I suppose in theory they could.
But not confirming anyone for 2-6 years is not exactly a great plan.

It's simply not realistic... and would give the opposition too much fodder. I suppose it's possible that's their master long term plan, but I don't really buy it.

If they were willing to stall this one to be able to then not confirm anyone for 2-6 years, why wouldn't they have done the same for gorsuch and submitted sexual assault claims for him and everyone after him until now?

Accusing this of being a strategic and patterned accusation, when we have seen no pattern and the strategy just doesn't seem that worth the effort..... isn't really great.
victor809 Offline
#623 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 11:47 AM EST
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dstieger wrote:
The prosecutor isn't bad, but seems to betray a little more R bias than I expected....maybe I'm just projecting what I expect to hear on MSM later...lol

I'd much rather listen to Ford and the prosecutor than the fn Senators.....not a one of them has added ANY value and its rather nauseating every time one of them opens their mouth...'on all sides'...:)


The prosecutor seems fine. She's doing what she was paid to do.... I have no problem with her leaning right. She's representing republican congresspeople....
I do agree that the dems are really not adding anything... every time one of them gets a chance to speak it's just soapbox "yay you for being here" stuff... not actually asking questions which support anything. Would be more valuable if it was just her and her lawyer answering the prosecutor woman's questions.
bgz Offline
#624 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 12:13 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
maybe huff some glue?


Nice attempt at dirty tactics to make the game easier :P
dstieger Offline
#625 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 12:14 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
The prosecutor seems fine. She's doing what she was paid to do.... I have no problem with her leaning right. She's representing republican congresspeople....


My wife just explained that to me....for some reason, I naively thought the prosecutor was just there for the entire committee... to ask questions and just sorta get to something approximating facts.
victor809 Offline
#626 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 12:18 PM EST
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Nah... it was an interesting choice, the republicans chose rather than to ask her questions themselves to have their entirety represented by one woman.

I think they are trying to avoid the optics of a bunch of old white men badgering a woman.... probably smart
delta1 Offline
#627 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 12:36 PM EST
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a few takes...

why doesn't the prosecutor or the Dems ask Ford how she met Kavanaugh and what other prior contacts with him occurred before the alleged assault...

during the break, it seems Lindsay Graham would've preferred to ask questions himself....
rfenst Offline
#628 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 1:15 PM EST
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I don't see how the prosecutor accomplished anything today.
frankj1 Offline
#629 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 1:17 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
My wife just explained that to me....for some reason, I naively thought the prosecutor was just there for the entire committee... to ask questions and just sorta get to something approximating facts.

try to keep up, Dave.
You're my lifeline to the Beltway!
delta1 Offline
#630 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 1:19 PM EST
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given the restraints of the setting and the lack of a foundational investigation, she was basically poking around with what was already known...not an ideal process for getting to the facts or the truth...

Ford did seem to have more testimony about prior contacts with Kavanaugh, which would've made clearer how her memory of who Kavanaugh was, and therefore was not mistaken in her accusation, but she was cut off by Grassley and then the prosecutor, who asked if there were other sexual acts...


we are looking at Thomas vs Hill II, she's sure something happened, but it's also possible, likely she's mistaken...
frankj1 Offline
#631 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 1:21 PM EST
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poking around is what got us into this mess in the first place
dstieger Offline
#632 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 1:22 PM EST
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yeah, Frank...sorry....lol....this whole Kavanaugh thing seems to quickly alternate between fascinating and tedious....I'll read everything I can get my hands on for a couple days and get burned out and just want it to be over --- I'm getting better conditioned to the 24 hr news cycle news with a good dose of in-depth study of 'overlooked' issues sprinkled in...
rfenst Offline
#633 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 1:22 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
poking around is what got us into this mess in the first place


LOL
delta1 Offline
#634 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 1:31 PM EST
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it is tedious, but I'm a glutton for punishment, and want to compare Ford's and Kavanaugh's testimony and demeanor...

to make a more complete and accurate evaluation, it's best to see it when it happens...

we are limited by the amount of time the questioners are given, and there were at least two times when Ford might've been on the cusp of making perhaps an important point and had to be interrupted and cut off by an artificial time restraint...will Kavanaugh be treated likewise?
dstieger Offline
#635 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 1:35 PM EST
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agreed, delta

and, I don't think today's hearing is tedious.....I'm just sorta burned out on the whole Kav thing.....funny, though....coincidentally, Hirono is always sort of alternating between fascinating and maddening at the same time, she's smart as hell....and such a partisan witch ....makes a sharp point and then tries to stick you with a dull blade
delta1 Offline
#636 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 1:39 PM EST
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It will also be interesting to see if Mitchell, the AZ prosecutor hired by the GOP because of her experience in investigating sex crimes, will question Kavanaugh as her instincts would drive her if she were looking into this as a sex crime with Ford the victim and Kavanaugh the suspect...

if so, her manner of questioning would be more confrontational with a suspect, not a victim...we shall see if this plays out...
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#637 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 2:06 PM EST
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So, no blue dress..?? Huh
dstieger Offline
#638 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 2:44 PM EST
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Kavanaugh has unleashed his inner Clarence Thomas
teedubbya Offline
#639 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 2:46 PM EST
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He's gonna have to stop and pee. He sure is drinking a lot of water.
rfenst Offline
#640 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 2:48 PM EST
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I can't decide if either of them is right, but now he is too tarnished to be on the SC.
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#641 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 3:13 PM EST
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I haven't seen his response. I've only read bad things about it, but I don't think those are necessarily unbiased.
How's his crying jag playing with the cbid crowd?
bgz Offline
#642 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 3:20 PM EST
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He was clearly about to sprout a leak, I thought he did well to hold it back.
DrafterX Offline
#643 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 3:27 PM EST
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At work.. haven't been able to watch... Mellow
bgz Offline
#644 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 3:28 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
At work.. haven't been able to watch... Mellow


That's why I have a TV in my office :D
rfenst Offline
#645 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 3:32 PM EST
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His arguing is not becoming.
victor809 Offline
#646 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 3:49 PM EST
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Working from home today but went to get lunch and do some work from a coffee shop.... So I can only follow news aggregators....
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#647 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 4:02 PM EST
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still at work.

did hear an opinion on NPR this morning that he may have boxed himself in on his earlier interview by going with the virgin/athlete/eagle scout squeaky clean story to the nation...(since questioned by fellow party animals at school)...

Commenter felt if he now answers questions that contradict that choir boy interview, he could damage his credibility...which is all this hoopla may be about in the final analysis.
rfenst Offline
#648 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 4:29 PM EST
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Hear we go: Kavanaugh resumes his testimony after a break.
Mr. Jones Offline
#649 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 4:56 PM EST
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Boring as H3LL...


Both of them....

The republican "Pat" lawyer is missing some chromosomes.

Ford looks like a rugby player.

Kavey-bay-beeeee....

It's ALL OVER FOR YOU NOW...SORRY TO SAY...

#METOO CLAIMS IT's newest victim...

Your all but toast now it would seem if the "talking heads" on TV have any input?

The FAT LADY AINT SINGING YET...

BUT SHE'S HUMMING A VERY LOUD TUNE....

(A QUEEN
TUNE I THINK's it is???)

BUMP ...BUMP... BUMP ... Another one bites the dust....
Bump... Bump... Bump... And another one gone...
Nother one gone...nother' one bites the dust...
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#650 Posted: Thu, Sep 27 2018, 5:08 PM EST
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Kav's toast due to his demeanor in this hearing.
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