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Speyside Offline
#451 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 1:42 PM EST
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TW, the cons here already know the truth. Opel seems very hooked up he knows the articles Victor and I read are lies. There really is no need to investigate. Everyone knows Kavanaugh is in the right here. Even if something happened it was so long ago and boys will be boys. And the women are democratic plants. Who wouldn't want the prestige and glamor of having to relive a sexual assault in front of the entire nation? Also because something is virtually impossible to verify certainly proves it isn't true.
victor809 Offline
#452 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 1:45 PM EST
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You kidding tw??? It's the best possible approach!

Look... If they investigate him we slog through the following:
.... Is the investigation partisan (whichever group finds the investigation to not get the results they want will claim this)
.... Is whatever is found bad (cons are sure to twister their way into saying that sex with 12 year olds in his 30s isn't really grounds to eliminate him.... And Dems already don't want to confirm him based on what's popped up so far)

Endless debating over whether anything really happened,what's the definition of disrobed... What video game character does his **** look like.... And no one will switch from what they already decided.


On the other hand..... Let's not investigate.... Confirm right away... Then anything that pops up can just become fun nicknames. Rapist supreme! He'll be the judge of your consent!
victor809 Offline
#453 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 1:49 PM EST
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I've pretty much given up.

We get the government we deserve, and based on what ive seen over the past year or two we really do deserve to have a rapist in the SCJ... Whether or not kavanaugh is one, well we'll find out at some point... Or we won't... It'll be way more amusing if we do find out one was confirmed after everyone decided not to investigate.

If not this one, maybe the next will turn out to be a serial rapist. I still have hope.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#454 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 1:52 PM EST
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Maybe ginsberg is... She's got that crazy look...
zitotczito Offline
#455 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 2:01 PM EST
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Judge Amy Coney Barrett is my pick. She could claim that she was molested and would be untouchable by the left.
dstieger Offline
#456 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 2:15 PM EST
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zitotczito wrote:
Judge Amy Coney Barrett is my pick. She could claim that she was molested and would be untouchable by the left.

Who'd she assault?
teedubbya Offline
#457 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 2:36 PM EST
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I think he called her ugly (untouchable)
victor809 Offline
#458 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 2:45 PM EST
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I'm not sure one should choose a candidate because they believe that if trouble pops up they can make a false molestation complaint....

I mean.... Is it that hard to find a qualified candidate who didn't rape or attempt to rape anyone?
HuckFinn Offline
#459 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 2:52 PM EST
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We'll always have Clarence ..like always...
opelmanta1900 Offline
#460 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 2:59 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
I'm not sure one should choose a candidate because they believe that if trouble pops up they can make a false molestation complaint....

I mean.... Is it that hard to find a qualified candidate who didn't rape or attempt to rape anyone?

It's finding someone who hasn't committed rape AND wants to be a judge that gets tricky... If we could elect by force it'd be way easy...
victor809 Offline
#461 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 3:06 PM EST
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.... Hmmm... Ironically that's the same attitude kavanaugh had to losing his virginity....
DrafterX Offline
#462 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 3:30 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
. And Dems already don't want to confirm him based on what's popped up so far)



The Dems never wanted him confirmed... I wasn't kidding about Ford's attorney being hard-core Resistance.. you think that's a coincidence..?? Huh
victor809 Offline
#463 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 4:11 PM EST
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That's a distraction drafter and you know it.

The reps never wanted any of the Dems nominees back when the position was open... The Dems didn't want any of the reps nominees.... Etc etc etc. But they will still get approved if there isn't anything obviously wrong with them.

We're talking about a different level of "don't want to confirm..."

And what does Ford's attorney have to do with confirmation? They aren't a senator...they aren't responsible for confirming him.
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#464 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 4:22 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Careful, or I'll force myself into the Victor Alumni.


great line.
tailgater Offline
#465 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 4:27 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Tail.... I've asked for more information.

My statements throughout this entire thread (not that you bother to read and understand anything) have been on the caveat that we need to determine credibility. If I have been discussing actions it is a theoretical discussion over the actions not whether they were perfomed.
His words I judge him on, and he seems to ahve been a slimy little kid. But I haven't said a damn thing about whether that has any impact on whether he should be a SCJ...

You're not very clever or good at understanding a discussion you just jump in on


Feel better now?
tailgater Offline
#466 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 4:29 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
Tail just made the case for Kavanaugh to NOT be confirmed...we don't want politicians on the SCOTUS...



Huh?
tailgater Offline
#467 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 4:41 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
It’s a background check not a crime investigation. The additional investigation would be the norm. Skipping it is the exception. Additional checks following previously undisclosed allegations are not uncommon.

And no a non political professional investigation is not happening, and probably won’t.

But it’s a conscious decision with known risk. Proceed and take your chances. To me it’s not worth the risk.



The problem is we have a 36 year old allegation.

By definition, there can be no clear witness.

Nobody, and I mean nobody, can remember with clarity the events of a gathering.
If Kavanaugh ran through the party wearing only batman underoos, the information gathered would range from him running around naked, to him wearing the underoos on his head.
This isn't opinion. Our brains adjust things over time.

I think something happened at the party with Ford and Kavanaugh. And maybe it was traumatic enough for her to remember some details. Or maybe she was convinced that she remembers enough details to fill in the blanks.
Either way, nobody else will remember any of it with enough detail to derail a man's career.

Meanwhile, we're talking about stuff that doesn't matter today.
Kavanaugh, by all counts, is not a serial rapist. Hell, he might still be virgin. But the liberals want to tar and feather him because of an event that may or may not have happened.
36 years ago.
During his teen years.

An event that wouldn't get him suspended today if he were 17 years old. But might get him removed from consideration.

When did this happen?
1982?
That's 11 years before President Bill Clinton sexually assaulted Katherine Wiley.
An event that didn't bother these same liberals.
Not one bit.

To say it's not political is a f*cking joke.
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#468 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 5:58 PM EST
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anyone still believe Bill Cosby? his victims (no longer alleged) were drugged! Decades ago.

Kavanaugh may well be the victim of a political assassination, but time span is not reason enough to pass on finding out.
I seem to be one of the few not privy to what really happened and would like to find out if this otherwise qualified candidate (despite my political differences) is of strong enough character to sit on the highest court in the land for the rest of most of our lives.

What's the compelling reason to rush? What's the greater good for the country?
Can't be that we need to get a ninth judge ASAP.
victor809 Offline
#469 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 6:21 PM EST
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Hah!... Vote is scheduled for Friday... It's safe to say he will be confirmed regardless of what comes out of the "hearing" Thur.

No one is interested in determining what actually happened or any investigating into anything. The world is exactly as I expect it to be.

Woohoo!
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#470 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 6:27 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Hah!... Vote is scheduled for Friday... It's safe to say he will be confirmed regardless of what comes out of the "hearing" Thur.

No one is interested in determining what actually happened or any investigating into anything. The world is exactly as I expect it to be.

Woohoo!

so you won the pool?
victor809 Offline
#471 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 7:02 PM EST
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Depends how rapey he turns out to be...
bgz Offline
#472 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 7:12 PM EST
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You keep saying rapey, but I think gropey would be more accurate... and has a more amusing ring to it.
delta1 Offline
#473 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 7:18 PM EST
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The GOP is determined to rush to confirm this man, who has shown some definite inconsistencies (lies?) during his testimony during his confirmation...so he was a hell raising high school kid who admittedly drank in excess and may've done some cringe worthy stuff (his words)...or worse (my words)...

The cons want him seated ASAP: who knows what will happen during the up-coming mid-term elections...possible pink wave, but WGAF as long as the cons control the SCOTUS...to hel* with any stinkin investigation, we don't want the truth...


Trump wants him seated because Kavanaugh holds a get out of jail card in his back-pocket, which would allow Trump to complete his term without fear of indictment or criminal investigation...


"To say it's not political is a f*cking joke." tail
delta1 Offline
#474 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 7:19 PM EST
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bgz wrote:
You keep saying rapey, but I think gropey would be more accurate... and has a more amusing ring to it.


Judge Grope a Dope...does have a lil ring to it...
Abrignac Offline
#475 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 8:06 PM EST
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I'm amazed that a blind person can see this for what it is: a hit job designed to prevent a vote on Kavanaugh prior to the mid-term elections, but the left have wrapped themselves in this as if it were a flag of truth.

Ford has some serious credibility issues:

1) The notion that someone will remember such details of an event that allegedly happened 35+ years ago is dubious at best.

2) She is a well educated women with an undergrad degree, two masters and a PhD, yet she didn't know if she had been assaulted until an attorney told her she had been? If she didn't think she had been assaulted, why the need to contact an attorney so long after the alleged incident? If she did think she was assaulted, why did she wait more than half of her life to report said incident?

3) She has made donations to Democratic causes

4) She is trying to dictate unprecedented terms of her appearance before the Senate Judiciary Committee such as a) room size, b) allowed news media, c) to be interviewed after the accused to prevent him from responding to the allegation, e) was unable to testify when originally asked by the committee and could not give a valid reason why she was unable to do so, f) dictate who was to be subpoenaed to also appear before the committee, g) demand that no outside counsel be allowed to ask questions.

5) She needs time to consult attorneys before appearing. She initially made these allegations in mid-July. Please tell me she consulted with attorneys before she made the allegation. Why should she now need additional time?

6) Calling for the FBI to investigate an alleged "state" crime that is probably well beyond the statue of limitations

Then we have Feinstein sitting on the allegation for a couple months and making it public on the eve of a vote

Shameful
delta1 Offline
#476 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 8:34 PM EST
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hey Ant, good to see you're back...

I don't know who is telling the truth here, but women have been hesitant to report this type of crime for eons, precisely because they are often portrayed as the slutty villains ... men seem to embrace this rush to judge victims, especially those who take awhile to gather the courage to file a complaint because men are usually the perpetrators and enjoy the benefit of how society treats victims of sex crimes...again, I don't know the truth of this she said/he said...

If I were Kavanaugh and as innocent as he insists, I'd demand an investigation and then when I've been proven innocent, I'd demand that Ford be charged for filing a false report. I wonder if the lack of a statute of limitations in the state of Maryland has caused him to bench that strategy...

Cosby's sentencing today illustrates that some women who wait decades to gather the courage to file a charge can be proven to be truthful...but that requires a willingness to investigate for the truth...
Abrignac Offline
#477 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 8:56 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
hey Ant, good to see you're back...

I don't know who is telling the truth here, but women have been hesitant to report this type of crime for eons, precisely because they are often portrayed as the slutty villains ... men seem to embrace this rush to judge victims, especially those who take awhile to gather the courage to file a complaint because men are usually the perpetrators and enjoy the benefit of how society treats victims of sex crimes...again, I don't know the truth of this she said/he said...

If I were Kavanaugh and as innocent as he insists, I'd demand an investigation and then when I've been proven innocent, I'd demand that Ford be charged for filing a false report. I wonder if the lack of a statute of limitations in the state of Maryland has caused him to bench that strategy...

Cosby's sentencing today illustrates that some women who wait decades to gather the courage to file a charge can be proven to be truthful...but that requires a willingness to investigate for the truth...


Al, I'm all for finding out the truth. I'm just saying that the circumstances of Ford's accusation have vastly overshadowed any resemblance of truth.

As far as filing a false report, that would be un-provable even it it was false. She's hired two very highly skilled, high profile litigators who specialize in whistle blower cases. And any attempt to do so would be painted as an attack on women by opportunistic parasites.

As far as Cosby is concerned, its wonderful that he admitted to his crimes in a deposition years ago that he thought would go unnoticed.
Abrignac Offline
#478 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 8:56 PM EST
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Hey Al, good to see you.
victor809 Offline
#479 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 9:27 PM EST
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Judgegropeadope supreme.... Not bad..

I say rapey because I'm curious if more will come forward. maybe not .. maybe this is the extent of his misbehavior... Maybe he had no misbehavior...

But it's not a risk I would take if my legacy was going to be getting him on the bench.

Pretending it's a hit job is ridiculous. The Dems won't like anyone who's nominated by trump... Why bother smearing this one? The reps could have simply dumped him once he started smelling and nominated the next and had them confirmed by now.

It's almost like the reps and Dems are working together to turn this into a pro wrestling match. If I read correctly this wasn't even the guy the republicans wanted... But trump nominated him over some other ones they wanted.

I would be more inclined to believe it's a manufactured smear job if it happened to the second one they nominated...
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#480 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 10:02 PM EST
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the nominator has also been accused of such behavior.
MACS Offline
#481 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 10:50 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
hey Ant, good to see you're back...

I don't know who is telling the truth here, but women have been hesitant to report this type of crime for eons, precisely because they are often portrayed as the slutty villains ... men seem to embrace this rush to judge victims, especially those who take awhile to gather the courage to file a complaint because men are usually the perpetrators and enjoy the benefit of how society treats victims of sex crimes...again, I don't know the truth of this she said/he said...

If I were Kavanaugh and as innocent as he insists, I'd demand an investigation and then when I've been proven innocent, I'd demand that Ford be charged for filing a false report. I wonder if the lack of a statute of limitations in the state of Maryland has caused him to bench that strategy...

Cosby's sentencing today illustrates that some women who wait decades to gather the courage to file a charge can be proven to be truthful...but that requires a willingness to investigate for the truth...


You mean like all the women who accused Bill Clinton? The same ones his wife attacked, and made feel the way you describe? Those women?

Dems seemed to not give two shits back then... and now one woman makes a 36 year old allegation and it's time to bust out the microscopes?

GTFO of here with that shit.
MACS Offline
#482 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 11:03 PM EST
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And if this isn't PURELY political... why did she send an "anonymous" letter to a POLITICIAN, and not report it to the police? Why did Feinstein sit on it for months, and THEN call for a delay so it could be investigated?
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#483 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 11:13 PM EST
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No reason to report to police...

I agree feinstein sitting on it was probably political to give the republicans as little time to choose another as possible. But that really has nothing to do with the accusation nor what our response should be
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#484 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 11:50 PM EST
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I’m confused MACS. Are you pro Clinton’s antics or anti this guys accused actions?

Also it’s nice to know we can now go by what’s in the press rather than real investigations.

And of course this is all political. No one is chanting lock him up lock him up. It’s a political process. That doesn’t mean free pass.

Also go back to 60% so we get bipartisan candidates from the start. We don’t need this ****.

I vote for justice gropey mcrapeface.

Kidding aside do a real investigation. Not a drawn out one but something like was done for Anita Thomas. If it shows nothing conclusive like folks are so sure of in here then confirm him.

It’s so easy.
teedubbya Offline
#485 Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018, 11:52 PM EST
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I wonder if Brent will grope Ruth?
opelmanta1900 Offline
#486 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 10:47 AM EST
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if you go to a hanful of parties, and you know the punch is being spiked, and you know women are dropping like flies after drinking the punch, and then being raped by numerous men while unconscious, why would you go to one of those parties and drink the punch?
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#487 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 10:51 AM EST
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“The next person who refers to an FBI report as being worth anything, obviously doesn’t understand anything,” Biden, then Democratic chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said at the time. “The FBI explicitly does not, in this case or any other case, reach a conclusion, period. Period.”


President Trump blasts Senate Democrats ahead of Thursday's high-stakes hearing; political strategists Chuck Rocha and Jen Kerns join the debate.
Biden presided over Thomas’ confirmation hearings when Anita Hill accused the nominee of making sexually explicit comments to her and unwanted advances while she worked for him. The allegations were briefly investigated by the FBI.

Members of the committee, at the time, called for further FBI investigation into Thomas. But in passionate remarks during the hearing, Biden dismissed those who said the FBI's report was "worth anything."

Addressing Thomas, Biden said, “The reason why we cannot rely on the FBI report — you wouldn’t like it if we did: because it is inconclusive.”


“They say ‘he said,’ ‘she said,’ ‘they said,’ period,” Biden explained. “So when people wave an FBI report before you, understand they do not, they do not, they do not reach conclusions. They do not make, as my friend points out more accurately, they do not make recommendations.”

Think
delta1 Offline
#488 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 11:40 AM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
if you go to a hanful of parties, and you know the punch is being spiked, and you know women are dropping like flies after drinking the punch, and then being raped by numerous men while unconscious, why would you go to one of those parties and drink the punch?


why spike the punch?

Kavanaugh's self description, under his picture, among other prideful events in his yearbook:

Treasurer of 100 Keg Club
Renata Alumnius (reference to a girl who was allegedly gang-raped by a number of boys from Kavanaugh's high school)
FfffffFourth of July (Find em, feel em, fondle em, french em, f* em, forget em, Fourth of July)

this was how he described himself for all posterity ... a list of his most proud accomplishments in high school...
dstieger Offline
#489 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 11:51 AM EST
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delta1 wrote:

Renata Alumnius (reference to a girl who was allegedly gang-raped by a number of boys from Kavanaugh's High School)



doesn't sound like anything I've read....in fact, I thought the subject alleged that she WASN'T ever gang-raped
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#490 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 11:53 AM EST
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I think Opel is referring to the newest allegations by a woman that the boys were running trains on girls who were given spiked punch.

Sounds like we're getting awfully close to judge mcsloppysecondsrapeface supreme!!!!!
victor809 Offline
#491 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 11:54 AM EST
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Newest accuser is someone named swetnick....
victor809 Offline
#492 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 11:57 AM EST
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.... I was so disappointed when Roy Moore lost by a hair.... judge Rapey mcsloppysecondsorthirdsorwhatever supreme could almost make up for that
delta1 Offline
#493 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 12:00 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
doesn't sound like anything I've read....in fact, I thought the subject alleged that she WASN'T ever gang-raped



she's mentioned in the yearbook 14 times, by other boys, including one who wrote a suggestive poem about a last minute "date" with Renate...and she HAS denied she was ever gang raped and said she doesn't even remember kissing Kavanaugh, whose attorney said he dated her once and kissed her goodnight...

Kavanaugh insists he had a quiet time in high school, studying, participating in athletics and going to church every Sunday...Liar
victor809 Offline
#494 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 12:05 PM EST
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Too many accusers.... Hard to keep track
Cliff notes:

Accuser 1 - Ford... Claims to have had judge Rapey mcrapeface and friend judge (not a judge) lock her in a room and attempted to sexually assault her (maybe rape)

Accuser 2 - Renata ... Judge rapey mcrapefacebutliesaboutsex apparently references her in his yearbook as someone he was an "alumnus" of, along with a number of other football players. She's ticked off and no longer supports him nor does she admit to any contact at all.

Accuser 3 - swetwick ... Claims judge Rapey mcrunatrainonyourdruggedassbutonlyaftermybuddies and judge (not a judge) would stand in lines at parties where an incapacitated girl was being raped in a room. And that she at one time was that incapacitated girl.
tailgater Offline
#495 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 12:08 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
The GOP is determined to rush to confirm this man, who has shown some definite inconsistencies (lies?) during his testimony during his confirmation...so he was a hell raising high school kid who admittedly drank in excess and may've done some cringe worthy stuff (his words)...or worse (my words)...

The cons want him seated ASAP: who knows what will happen during the up-coming mid-term elections...possible pink wave, but WGAF as long as the cons control the SCOTUS...to hel* with any stinkin investigation, we don't want the truth...


Trump wants him seated because Kavanaugh holds a get out of jail card in his back-pocket, which would allow Trump to complete his term without fear of indictment or criminal investigation...


"To say it's not political is a f*cking joke." tail




All true.
Conservatives should absolutely want him on The Court.

Doesn't make the selective outrage from the left any more palatable.

One side is playing politics to get a person voted into a position.
One side is playing politics to derail a man's life.
tailgater Offline
#496 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 12:12 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
anyone still believe Bill Cosby? his victims (no longer alleged) were drugged! Decades ago.

Kavanaugh may well be the victim of a political assassination, but time span is not reason enough to pass on finding out.
I seem to be one of the few not privy to what really happened and would like to find out if this otherwise qualified candidate (despite my political differences) is of strong enough character to sit on the highest court in the land for the rest of most of our lives.

What's the compelling reason to rush? What's the greater good for the country?
Can't be that we need to get a ninth judge ASAP.


Bill Cosby drugged and raped dozens of women while an adult man with considerable clout over his victims.

Kavanaugh is accused of groping a teenage girl when he was 17 and at a drinking party with friends.

Yeah.
I can see how you compare the two...

Greater good?
That merits a well deserved LOL!
delta1 Offline
#497 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 12:16 PM EST
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unlike victor, I wouldn't enjoy the spectacle of seating an unfit justice on the SCOTUS, and the uproar that would follow...

we deserve, and must insist on, selecting the best of the best among us imperfect human beings to sit on the SCOTUS...regardless of legal experience and demonstrated intellect, irrespective of philosophies and beliefs about the Constitution, legal issues among competing interests, rules governing behavior among all individuals and organizations, there must be a basic foundation of good/admirable character and trustworthiness of those we elevate to these powerful and lifetime positions.


Kavanaugh has credibility problems that are indicators of character issues. I am positive the cons can find a more suitable candidate.
dstieger Offline
#498 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 12:19 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Too many accusers.... Hard to keep track
Cliff notes:

Accuser 1 - Ford... Claims to have had judge Rapey mcrapeface and friend judge (not a judge) lock her in a room and attempted to sexually assault her (maybe rape)

Accuser 2 - Renata ... Judge rapey mcrapefacebutliesaboutsex apparently references her in his yearbook as someone he was an "alumnus" of, along with a number of other football players. She's ticked off and no longer supports him nor does she admit to any contact at all.

Accuser 3 - swetwick ... Claims judge Rapey mcrunatrainonyourdruggedassbutonlyaftermybuddies and judge (not a judge) would stand in lines at parties where an incapacitated girl was being raped in a room. And that she at one time was that incapacitated girl.


Or, in other words....
Accuser 1 - Ford... Claims to have had judge and friend judge in a room in some house somewhere sometime grasped at a button and fell off a bed

Accuser 2 - Renata ... Judge apparently references her in his yearbook as someone he was an "alumnus" of, along with a number of other football players. Best call in the FBI

Accuser 3 - swetwick ... Has Creepy Porn Lawyer claim that judge and (not a judge) would stand in lines at parties where for some unknown reason that she hasn't elaborated on.... she decided that an incapacitated girl was being raped in a room. And that she at one time was an incapacitated girl who may have been raped...but doesn't claim that judge and/or judge raped her.

Don't forget accuser 4 - someone who might have been someone, who I've been told might have been Kavanaugh or someone else might have taken out their junk and put it in my face in college
bgz Offline
#499 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 12:19 PM EST
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These claims are getting pretty ridiculous...

Pretty sure we would have heard about the gang rapes by now.
victor809 Offline
#500 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 12:23 PM EST
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Delta.... Your biggest mistake is starting that paragraph with "we deserve..."

.... It's looking more and more to me like we are going to get what we deserve. A supreme court judge with rumors about running trains on incapacitated girls swirling around him. It'd be even more fun if more come forward over time, so that it's not just "rumors".

That's what we deserve as a collective country. We proved it when we elected trump... We proved it when we almost elected Moore.

Kavanaugh sounds like he was a real azzhole in high school. May still be one. But I for one would be upset if we didn't have symmetry throughout our governing body.
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