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delta1 Offline
#501 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 12:23 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I wonder if Brent will grope Ruth?


lol...good one...

he prolly wouldn't, cuz there aint much there...but he'd definitely put his hands over her mouth...
victor809 Offline
#502 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 12:27 PM EST
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"pretty sure we would have hear about gang rapes by now"?
You haven't been paying attention to history.

This sh&t seems to keep quiet for a very long time .... Until one person talks.

Remember Cosby?
The Olympic trainer?
Sandusky?
Weinstein?

That's why this is so fun. They're determined to push forward. But the more I hear they more I think there's a good chance that more will come out.
victor809 Offline
#503 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 12:28 PM EST
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Sorry dsteig... You're right, I forgot about the 4th accuser... (That one seemed meh to me... I mean... Taking your ****** out in drunken social situations isn't necessarily rapey)
delta1 Offline
#504 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 12:29 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Delta.... Your biggest mistake is starting that paragraph with "we deserve..."

.... It's looking more and more to me like we are going to get what we deserve. A supreme court judge with rumors about running trains on incapacitated girls swirling around him. It'd be even more fun if more come forward over time, so that it's not just "rumors".

That's what we deserve as a collective country. We proved it when we elected trump... We proved it when we almost elected Moore.

Kavanaugh sounds like he was a real azzhole in high school. May still be one. But I for one would be upset if we didn't have symmetry throughout our governing body.


we can correct the mistake that is Trump, in two years...if he gets another four, you're right, we'll deserve it...

A SCOTUS mistake would take decades to correct... more depending on the decisions he/she issues
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#505 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 12:30 PM EST
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Just figured out why Trump is still high on Kavavaugh. He is president p**** grabbers kind of guy.
victor809 Offline
#506 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 12:32 PM EST
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Maybe trump was in line too?
teedubbya Offline
#507 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 12:39 PM EST
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I just want to go on record before any more accusations come out. I immediately reject all potential future accusations because Dems, Obama and Clintons.
victor809 Offline
#508 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 12:44 PM EST
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Dsteig... the irony of referring to avenatti as "the porn star lawyer" is that he only represented a porn star because the president screwed one and then paid her to keep quiet, possibly with campaign funds.

He is only a "porn star lawyer" because the current administration has brought porn stars in to political discussion. I'm pretty sure he was just a lawyer before that.
teedubbya Offline
#509 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 12:44 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
"pretty sure we would have hear about gang rapes by now"?
You haven't been paying attention to history.

This sh&t seems to keep quiet for a very long time .... Until one person talks.

Remember Cosby?
The Olympic trainer?
Sandusky?
Weinstein?

That's why this is so fun. They're determined to push forward. But the more I hear they more I think there's a good chance that more will come out.



And to my knowledge none of them were even Catholic... how long did that abuse get covered up?
teedubbya Offline
#510 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 12:45 PM EST
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Would that make Trump the porn stars president?
victor809 Offline
#511 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 12:46 PM EST
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I don't think he screwed her well enough to make her vote for.him.....
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#512 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 12:56 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
if you go to a hanful of parties, and you know the punch is being spiked, and you know women are dropping like flies after drinking the punch, and then being raped by numerous men while unconscious, why would you go to one of those parties and drink the punch?

blaming the victim is so 60's.

hey, she was wearing a tight skirt too.
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#513 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 1:00 PM EST
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I wasn't casting blame... If anything, I was casting doubt... If she testifies, she would need to answer that exact question...
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#514 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 1:08 PM EST
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And let's not forget that this "victim" stood by silent on multiple occasions while multiple people were being gang raped... According to her... And she said nothing... And continued attending such parties... That's not a victim... That's an enabler...
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#515 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 1:12 PM EST
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Hahahhahahhahahah.....

I suppose you could also say that any kid who is raped by a priest and keeps quiet is an enabler too... I mean...they have first hand knowledge that the priests are rapists... But they don't tell anyone.

Those damn enabling kids. Prolly deserve what they get (buttholes that don't close properly.... That's what they get)
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#516 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 1:13 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Dsteig... the irony of referring to avenatti as "the porn star lawyer" is that he only represented a porn star because the president screwed one and then paid her to keep quiet, possibly with campaign funds.

He is only a "porn star lawyer" because the current administration has brought porn stars in to political discussion. I'm pretty sure he was just a lawyer before that.


Not sure I see the irony. But, IIRC, he's not a porn star lawyer because of Trump....he's a porn star lawyer because he smelt publicity once the porn star story was out -- I don't think he rep'd her until he decided she should try to invalidate the NDA....so, because of Trump indirectly, but he's worse than the prototypical ambulance chaser -- he's s spotlight chaser and a sleazy one at that, IMO
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#517 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 1:16 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Hahahhahahhahahah.....

I suppose you could also say that any kid who is raped by a priest and keeps quiet is an enabler too... I mean...they have first hand knowledge that the priests are rapists... But they don't tell anyone.

Those damn enabling kids. Prolly deserve what they get (buttholes that don't close properly.... That's what they get)

That's a twisted way of looking at it... So if she had never been raped but still witnessed all the gang rape situations she claims she witnessed and said nothing she's an innocent bystander... But if kav witnessed it and said nothing he's a rapist judge... Get your lips off that liberal teet Victor...
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#518 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 1:19 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Bill Cosby drugged and raped dozens of women while an adult man with considerable clout over his victims.

Kavanaugh is accused of groping a teenage girl when he was 17 and at a drinking party with friends.

Yeah.
I can see how you compare the two...

Greater good?
That merits a well deserved LOL!







wrong context on Cosby, as you undoubtedly know.
The reference was to counter the claim that reliable 36 year old memories and evidence can not exist...
Cosby went to jail yesterday. Kav is not even charged with anything. But both situations share long distance memory...one set is deemed strong enough to send a guy to jail, the other is discredited as unreliable to even question a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court. Seems uneven to me...to Cosby! HA!

making CLAIMS (there are no charges against Kav) seem minor with subtle word substitutions changes the discussion to something that is not based on what is really being said...

for example: "groping a teenage girl when he was 17 and at a drinking party..."
is not what the claims are, though still wrong to do. If what is actually claimed happened, it is not as cute as the new words sound, and "at a drinking party with friends" gives subtle shift or sharing of blame for something also made to sound subtly less reprehensible.

You do know the real language of the claims. You do not use them though.

Yet, once again, I don't know if any of this happened, you don't have to keep trying to prove wrong what you imagine I believe.

I think it's important enough to find out though.
You don't.
victor809 Offline
#519 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 1:20 PM EST
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I don't think anyone is accusing kavanaugh of doing nothing. She said he was in line... As in... "Hey guys you got your 30 seconds!!! It's my turn! I hope you didn't use a condom, it's more fun when it's sloppy guys!"

I haven't read anyone be upset at him for being at one of those parties and saying nothing. That's in your head.
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#520 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 1:24 PM EST
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Dsteig... He represented a woman who the president had extramarital sex with and then paid off to keep quiet. What her profession is is largely irrelevant, as she wasn't performing said profession when trump screwed her or paid her . The only reason you can refer to him as the porn star lawyer is because our president chose to have his extramarital affair with a porn star. If our president chose to have his extramarital affair with a rocket scientist, he would be referred to as the "rocket scientist lawyer"....

Whether he's an ambulance chaser or not really doesn't figure into that nickname.
teedubbya Offline
#521 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 1:24 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
That's a twisted way of looking at it... So if she had never been raped but still witnessed all the gang rape situations she claims she witnessed and said nothing she's an innocent bystander... But if kav witnessed it and said nothing he's a rapist judge... Get your lips off that liberal teet Victor...



I agree with you Opel. I probably wouldn't confirm her to the SC due to her terrible omission to act. I wouldn't put her in jail though.....


We do need an investigation though... then confirm him if this is all bunk and punish anyone lying to the FBI (like Flynn)
DrafterX Offline
#522 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 2:11 PM EST
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That's prolly why these wimmens don't want to testify in front of Congress... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#523 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 2:18 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
That's prolly why these wimmens don't want to testify in front of Congress... Mellow



Yea if I was lying I'd want to have the FBI investigate me instead Mellow
opelmanta1900 Offline
#524 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 2:24 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I agree with you Opel. I probably wouldn't confirm her to the SC due to her terrible omission to act. I wouldn't put her in jail though.....


Sexist! Not talking
And also, if you think consistently attending parties where gang rape is the norm and being fully aware of those gang rapes is deserving of no punishment other than not getting on the supreme court, why is any of this bothering you? Why demand an investigation? You clearly think it's no big deal...

teedubbya wrote:

We do need an investigation though... then confirm him if this is all bunk and punish anyone lying to the FBI (like Flynn)

Agreed... But that's because I think anyone who attended multiple gang rape parties needs to be punished... Not sure why you think it's necessary... Just want the details?
DrafterX Offline
#525 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 2:25 PM EST
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They want 'kavanaugh investigated.. not themselves.. Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#526 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 2:29 PM EST
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This whole thing is a fishing expedition hoping someone will surface with actual proof 'kavanaugh did something wrong so they can disappear.. Mellow
victor809 Offline
#527 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 2:32 PM EST
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You're upset that they are accusing him without any evidence...
But without evidence you're accusing them of just trying to instigate a fishing expedition.
DrafterX Offline
#528 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 2:36 PM EST
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Well, that's what I heard... Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#529 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 3:21 PM EST
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And I deduced it.. Mellow
Mr. Jones Offline
#530 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 3:49 PM EST
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Po' Po' kavey-baaaaa-beeeee....

I think the "JIG IS FINALLY UP" ON YOUR NOMINATION
WITH...
WHAT'S BEHIND DOOR # THREE....

Julie Swetnick looks like "a final nail in dee coffin"
or
The proverbial...

Monkey wrench in the works...

Kavey baby not only loses the SCOTUS NOMINATION BUT PERHAPS HIS CURRENT JUDGESHIP POSITION AND I THINK THE VULTURES ARE CIRCLING NOW FOR HIS LICENSE TO PRACTICE LAW...
AT ALL, ever again???

Etu Brute'

The Mennonite Librarian wife and the two homely daughters are headed back to grandma's HUT and you'll be the newest bachelor in D.C. stumbling STUPORED around Georgetown till all hours of the evening while working at a Conservative think tank or being a disbarred law clerk in a basement across the river in Arlington , VA...

I was pulling for ya' ...
butttttt.....now...

Man, they just keep comin' outta da' woodwork....

And its "Brett COSBY TIME" accusations WITH GRAIN ALCOHOL AND QUALUDES....dude...ur in deep sheeeite... how did this CRAP never come out in the previous 5-6?
FBI BACKGROUND CHECKS???

(I KNOW HOW IT DID....MONEY IN THE RIGHT POCKETS
IS THE ONLY WAY IT DID).
teedubbya Offline
#531 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 3:58 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Sexist! Not talking
And also, if you think consistently attending parties where gang rape is the norm and being fully aware of those gang rapes is deserving of no punishment other than not getting on the supreme court, why is any of this bothering you? Why demand an investigation? You clearly think it's no big deal...


Agreed... But that's because I think anyone who attended multiple gang rape parties needs to be punished... Not sure why you think it's necessary... Just want the details?



I just don't think there is anything that can be done this many years later other than refusing to confirm her to the highest court in the land.... same as with him. Equal outrage. But if true both should be shunned. Maybe even shamed like in GoT. If not true shun and shame again...


I want the investigation because I am not sure what to believe and think a good investigator can trip folks up and get additional leads.

The folks in here seem to think there should never be an investigation if you don't want to believe something or it seems fishy. I think that's why you investigate.
victor809 Offline
#532 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 4:13 PM EST
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MAGA!!!!

(Make America Gangrape Again)?
bgz Offline
#533 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 4:22 PM EST
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I think back to all the parties I went to as a kid, and I can remember the lines around the block to get into that special room with Jenny D Slutinsky...

Wait... never happened, my bad. Don't know how many parties I've been to (it was a lot), but I can't say I've encountered a gang bang at a party before, let alone one at a party full of normal party hoppers.

I mean something like this... it would have already came out at some point during this whole fiasco from somebody. I mean, party hopping gang bangs I'm guessing are pretty rare, and if a group of people were notorious for it, this would have surfaced long before this chick made the claim.
teedubbya Offline
#534 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 4:25 PM EST
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I am aware of a couple that went on and others through the grapevine that may or may not have really happened. But my personal experience really has nothing to do with this. Just investigate and debunk if thats the case.

by the way I am convinced Mitch McConnel is Harry Reid with bug eyes
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#535 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 4:27 PM EST
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So any investigation other than the FBI's doesn't count..?? Huh
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#536 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 4:34 PM EST
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Sure it would. They are not doing one. Each member gets 5 minutes each to ask a question. Thats not an investigation. And the investigation usually comes before the questioning as a base from which to start. None of this is happening because of .... well dems and bammy and clinton and boogy men.


There is a normal They are not following it. And they (and probably you) know it. It's all a game.

An FBI investigation would be the norm and the most credible but hey... at this point we just wont do one at all ... its inconvenient and stuff.
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#537 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 4:35 PM EST
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So because bgz didn't get invited to a gangrape party he's convinced they don't exist, or would have totally gotten in trouble by now if they did ...


I got no idea who's telling the truth.... But the excuses for why this stuff must not be true are absolutely bizarre.

All anyone should be able to say honestly is "I dunno what the truth is because I wasn't there..." And then if they want to know what the truth is, perhaps ask someone to look into this. But I keep hearing a lot of people convinced she (she being any of the 4) must be lying because..... (Insert ridiculous reason based around either time, or timing, or political party or because they didn't get to go to rape parties)....

The reps should have just dumped him like a drugged high school girl the instant he started smelling bad and asked president gropes a lot for a second nom.... But because they are who they are... And president gropes a lot is who he is.... And the voters are who they are.... We get supreme judge rapey mcrunatrainonyourdruggedass ...

And he'll be confirmed Friday...
And if dead baby Jesus is smiling on us we'll have a 5th accuser on Mon the next week.... Maybe this one will have a kid or something...
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#538 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 4:40 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I am aware of a couple that went on and others through the grapevine that may or may not have really happened. But my personal experience really has nothing to do with this. Just investigate and debunk if thats the case.

by the way I am convinced Mitch McConnel is Harry Reid with bug eyes


So these gang bangs that you were ... ahem "aware of", were they in the middle of house parties with normal people as well, or was everyone there going at it.

I've heard of a few too (I always assume people are full of sh*t though). I can't say I've actually been to a party where one was going on... and if I was at such a party, there certainly wasn't a gang bang line.

Only lines I ever saw were to the toilet, the keg, and along the fence with people puking.
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#539 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 4:51 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
So because bgz didn't get invited to a gangrape party he's convinced they don't exist, or would have totally gotten in trouble by now if they did ...


You sidestep and twist words worse than anyone I've ever seen. She's saying this was a frequent event at normal parties... not dedicated gang rape parties as you seem to believe...

And clearly you're not getting the point... spontaneous gang rapes at random parties are a relatively rare occurrence.

I mean, they might not have been for you, but I've personally never seen one.
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#540 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 5:01 PM EST
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Again... You're not getting the point.
Neither of us were privileged beltway football playing kids in the 80s... Neither of us knows what is rare or not. And neither of us know just how many parties these kids had (maybe 10 gang rapes was rare)....

You've made assumptions from your perspective and how you great up, that she must be lying because her depiction doesn't match what you remember from your youth... I'm just pointing out that is a fallacy. Just because you didn't have gangrapes at the parties you went to, doesn't mean that a different class of people, in a different era werent doing it....
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#541 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 5:01 PM EST
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bgz wrote:
So these gang bangs that you were ... ahem "aware of", were they in the middle of house parties with normal people as well, or was everyone there going at it.

I've heard of a few too (I always assume people are full of sh*t though). I can't say I've actually been to a party where one was going on... and if I was at such a party, there certainly wasn't a gang bang line.

Only lines I ever saw were to the toilet, the keg, and along the fence with people puking.



I'm not going to say any more. But yes there were normal people there that were unaware and or left when made aware (like me). No idea if things were consensual or not, I assumed so at the time but who really knows... I had nothing to do with any of it. If I remember right though there were rumors of an inversion table.

It did always seem to involve the same group of folks that were on the periphery of my group. And I could name names but never have. I could also name the folks with the best weed but never will.
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#542 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 5:01 PM EST
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Great=grew
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#543 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 5:06 PM EST
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Also remember that in the 80s that wasn't considered rape.

Getting a girl drunk to take advantage of her was considered 100% acceptable behavior. Slipping women drugs was depicted as a fun thing to do in the movies. From their perspective then, they weren't doing anything wrong... They wouldn't be thinking of these as "gangrape parties"... These are just parties... "Where we totally got Jill drunk and messed up on qualuudes and she had sex with a bunch of guys"...
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#544 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 5:20 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Also remember that in the 80s that wasn't considered rape.

Getting a girl drunk to take advantage of her was considered 100% acceptable behavior. Slipping women drugs was depicted as a fun thing to do in the movies. From their perspective then, they weren't doing anything wrong... They wouldn't be thinking of these as "gangrape parties"... These are just parties... "Where we totally got Jill drunk and messed up on qualuudes and she had sex with a bunch of guys"...

What movies?
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#545 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 5:32 PM EST
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I seem to remember revenge of the nerds... Half of what they did to get laid would be considered rape today.

Didn't they use "Spanish fly" in o e of their drinks?
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#546 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 5:34 PM EST
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16 candles I think someone took an unconscious girl home and woke up in bed with her...
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#547 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 5:56 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I'm not going to say any more. But yes there were normal people there that were unaware and or left when made aware (like me). No idea if things were consensual or not, I assumed so at the time but who really knows... I had nothing to do with any of it. If I remember right though there were rumors of an inversion table.

It did always seem to involve the same group of folks that were on the periphery of my group. And I could name names but never have. I could also name the folks with the best weed but never will.


I wouldn't be able to do it either, primarily because I'm kind of a germaphobe. Without the germaphobe thing, I'm sure my morals would ultimately get the better of me, but because of the germaphobe thing, the point is moot.
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#548 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 5:58 PM EST
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It’s disgusting to me. Sounds like another accusation just dropped.
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#549 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 5:59 PM EST
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Really??? I haven't heard it yet....
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#550 Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2018, 6:07 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Again... You're not getting the point.
Neither of us were privileged beltway football playing kids in the 80s... Neither of us knows what is rare or not. And neither of us know just how many parties these kids had (maybe 10 gang rapes was rare)....

You've made assumptions from your perspective and how you great up, that she must be lying because her depiction doesn't match what you remember from your youth... I'm just pointing out that is a fallacy. Just because you didn't have gangrapes at the parties you went to, doesn't mean that a different class of people, in a different era werent doing it....


I said she lied? Don't remember saying that. As being one who loved to party growing up, I've partied at various locations with various demographics. In my mind, for me to not have witnessed such an event at the number of parties I've been to makes me find the story less than credible.

I also said I always assume people are full of sh*t, so I already think most the stories I hear are BS... and I find this one to be less believable than most stories. If she would have simply left the part off about how it happened all the time and everyone knew about it and partied on anyway, I think it would have been less far fetched.

Seriously though, how many parties have you been to where gang bang spontaneously erupted?
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